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		<title>By: Gerald</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gerald</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 05:28:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i hope that those Stimulus Package coming from the government would really kick start the Economy. the economic recession has been very bad on my business. `</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i hope that those Stimulus Package coming from the government would really kick start the Economy. the economic recession has been very bad on my business. `</p>
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		<title>By: Christian Debt Consolidators</title>
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		<dc:creator>Christian Debt Consolidators</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Feb 2009 22:04:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good info.  Thanks.</description>
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		<title>By: SassyFrassy</title>
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		<dc:creator>SassyFrassy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Feb 2009 17:58:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>HR 219 THIS WILL SAVE SOCIAL SECURITY---but guess why PUBLIC hasn&#039;t heard about it?? Because DEMS don&#039;t want anyone to know that this bill will for DECADES to come SECURE SOCIAL SECURITY for the PUBLIC how?

1. Creates enough SURPLUS to pay all SOC SEC benefits for decades to come

2.Keeps politicians from cutting PRESENTSOC SEC benefits 

3. keeps politicians from raising taxes.The lobby groups put out the info yesterday and that DEMS don&#039;t want anyone to know because then politicians would have to stop using the SOC SEC for pork projects. introduced to Congress by RON PAUL OF TEXAS. 

If you want to put a stop to this worst spending you can write your congressman, Christopher Kit Bond and Claire McCaskill at the US Senate, Washington D.C. 20510 or your US Congressman Respresenting the 8th District, Jo Ann Emerson, Washington D.C., 20510.

Tell them your want to see the Social Security Preservation Act HR 219 which would require 100% of the trust fund money saved be passed. It is clear politicians will not pass the Social Security preservation Act HR 219 unless a tidal wave of support for the American public forces them too.

It is time to let Congress know how you feel about this. Let them hear from you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>HR 219 THIS WILL SAVE SOCIAL SECURITY&#8212;but guess why PUBLIC hasn&#8217;t heard about it?? Because DEMS don&#8217;t want anyone to know that this bill will for DECADES to come SECURE SOCIAL SECURITY for the PUBLIC how?</p>
<p>1. Creates enough SURPLUS to pay all SOC SEC benefits for decades to come</p>
<p>2.Keeps politicians from cutting PRESENTSOC SEC benefits </p>
<p>3. keeps politicians from raising taxes.The lobby groups put out the info yesterday and that DEMS don&#8217;t want anyone to know because then politicians would have to stop using the SOC SEC for pork projects. introduced to Congress by RON PAUL OF TEXAS. </p>
<p>If you want to put a stop to this worst spending you can write your congressman, Christopher Kit Bond and Claire McCaskill at the US Senate, Washington D.C. 20510 or your US Congressman Respresenting the 8th District, Jo Ann Emerson, Washington D.C., 20510.</p>
<p>Tell them your want to see the Social Security Preservation Act HR 219 which would require 100% of the trust fund money saved be passed. It is clear politicians will not pass the Social Security preservation Act HR 219 unless a tidal wave of support for the American public forces them too.</p>
<p>It is time to let Congress know how you feel about this. Let them hear from you.</p>
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		<title>By: SassyFrassy</title>
		<link>http://www.melissaclouthier.com/2009/01/28/stimulus-package-the-deceitful-way-to-nationalize-healthcare/comment-page-1/#comment-13345</link>
		<dc:creator>SassyFrassy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Feb 2009 01:21:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just found out yesterday the new so-called stimulus is a STEALTH bill
which contains an 800 page pro-Socialist written section where it
says
that the PUBLICS pratitioners are to give treatment ONLY that WHICH
is
COST EFFECTIVE to GOVERNMENT and that GOV says is appropriate NOT
what is BENEFITIAL to make PUBLIC healthy and NOT what will keep the
PUBLIC alive and NOT what will protect the PUBLIC. 

iT also states that any illness lets say osteoporosis for example, if
you are x percent chances of survival---they will let you DIE. Same
thing with any illness allergies, asthma, add adhd and osteoporosis children as well.

Also, the Bill states that the PUBLIC must meet GOVERNMENT
requirements to receive care and it leaves it up to GOVERNMENT to
decide what those REQUIREMENTS ARE.  (politically religious  or otherwise) for GOV to make up as they go along.
 
In it&#039;s present state it alloows GOV to DICTATE to PUBLIC Political, religious, and any stipulations it wants--the same as Russia and other countries. 
 
If coupled with mislabeled &quot;fairness doctrine&quot; it will give a BLANK check to GOV to deny healthcare to NON-MUSLIMS. 
 
And, for whaaat??? So that American&#039;s can work hard to GIVE their money to GOV to satify the GOV want for pork at the expense of you and your childs health, safety.  

NO WONDER Obama wanted to shove this IRRESPONSIBLE so-called stimulus
down an unsuspecting NATIONS throats, because they think Americans are
as Stupid as the ACLU and DEMS think they are.     

go see for yourselves melanie malkin did a whole expose on it. we have been trying to get the word out but typing is difficult so feel free to cut paste print  

this is a STEALTH bill designed to turn an unsuspecting Nation into a
SOC/GLOBALIST/COMMUNIST/MARXIST/FACIST Nation</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just found out yesterday the new so-called stimulus is a STEALTH bill<br />
which contains an 800 page pro-Socialist written section where it<br />
says<br />
that the PUBLICS pratitioners are to give treatment ONLY that WHICH<br />
is<br />
COST EFFECTIVE to GOVERNMENT and that GOV says is appropriate NOT<br />
what is BENEFITIAL to make PUBLIC healthy and NOT what will keep the<br />
PUBLIC alive and NOT what will protect the PUBLIC. </p>
<p>iT also states that any illness lets say osteoporosis for example, if<br />
you are x percent chances of survival&#8212;they will let you DIE. Same<br />
thing with any illness allergies, asthma, add adhd and osteoporosis children as well.</p>
<p>Also, the Bill states that the PUBLIC must meet GOVERNMENT<br />
requirements to receive care and it leaves it up to GOVERNMENT to<br />
decide what those REQUIREMENTS ARE.  (politically religious  or otherwise) for GOV to make up as they go along.</p>
<p>In it&#8217;s present state it alloows GOV to DICTATE to PUBLIC Political, religious, and any stipulations it wants&#8211;the same as Russia and other countries. </p>
<p>If coupled with mislabeled &#8220;fairness doctrine&#8221; it will give a BLANK check to GOV to deny healthcare to NON-MUSLIMS. </p>
<p>And, for whaaat??? So that American&#8217;s can work hard to GIVE their money to GOV to satify the GOV want for pork at the expense of you and your childs health, safety.  </p>
<p>NO WONDER Obama wanted to shove this IRRESPONSIBLE so-called stimulus<br />
down an unsuspecting NATIONS throats, because they think Americans are<br />
as Stupid as the ACLU and DEMS think they are.     </p>
<p>go see for yourselves melanie malkin did a whole expose on it. we have been trying to get the word out but typing is difficult so feel free to cut paste print  </p>
<p>this is a STEALTH bill designed to turn an unsuspecting Nation into a<br />
SOC/GLOBALIST/COMMUNIST/MARXIST/FACIST Nation</p>
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		<title>By: Dee</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Feb 2009 04:01:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rachel,

I appreciate your comments, but can&#039;t help but wonder if you have actually read the last published health care resolutions section of the proposed stimulus package,(perhaps available throught your rep&#039;s office, or if not online at loc) or are just basing your comments on the divisive media hype about some of the measures.

Also, one particular phrase in your post strikes me as ironic; &quot;Their purpose is (or should be) to protect the rights of businesses&quot;. Recent events certainly indicate that left on its own, a poorly regulated industry can potentially wreak havoc on a global economy. Please consider.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rachel,</p>
<p>I appreciate your comments, but can&#8217;t help but wonder if you have actually read the last published health care resolutions section of the proposed stimulus package,(perhaps available throught your rep&#8217;s office, or if not online at loc) or are just basing your comments on the divisive media hype about some of the measures.</p>
<p>Also, one particular phrase in your post strikes me as ironic; &#8220;Their purpose is (or should be) to protect the rights of businesses&#8221;. Recent events certainly indicate that left on its own, a poorly regulated industry can potentially wreak havoc on a global economy. Please consider.</p>
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		<title>By: Stimulus Health Care Scam &#171; Blog Entry &#171; Dr. Melissa Clouthier</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stimulus Health Care Scam &#171; Blog Entry &#171; Dr. Melissa Clouthier</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Feb 2009 15:02:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Americans pay Federal Income Tax) should provide for the whole? [Previous posts on the topic here, here, [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Rachel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rachel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Feb 2009 01:59:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lane,

One particular phrase in your comment sticks out to me; namely, the following.

&quot;The decisions you mention, that of bureaucrats deciding who lives or dies, seems to lead one to believe that an insurance company or a self employed physician (both working for profit) do not make those decisions.&quot;

I find it interesting that you mention as an aside that insurance companies and self-employed physicians work for profit.  Please correct me if I have interpreted this phrase wrongly, but it seems to me that your implication is that working for profit is somehow a bad thing.

I know it is a common conception that it is evil, selfish, and destructive to work for profit.  The rich are maligned for their accomplishments, and the name of Capitalism itself is associated somehow with an aura of evil.  However, it is the ambitious individuals that came to this country in order to pursue their own happiness and their own profit that made us so great.  The people on whose backs this country was built were not working for their neighbor, they were not building their businesses so that they could hand off their hard-earned money to undeserving third parties; they did it for themselves.

When I go see my physician, I know that I am getting the best care possible, simply because I know that she is working for her own profit.  A wise businessman knows that the best way to make a profit and stay competative is to provide the best services possible at the lowest prices affordable.  My doctor has never failed to give me excellent service, and that&#039;s what keeps me going back to her...and she knows it.

The government, however, is not a business, nor should it try to function as one.  Their purpose is (or should be) to protect the rights of businesses and individuals, not to dictate them.  It is, in the words of our founding fathers, &quot;a necessary evil.&quot;  The government has absolutely no initiative to provide the best services possible, because if it is the only entity you can go to for your product, there is no need for competetive quality.  It has no need to provide its services at the lowest price possible because it doesn&#039;t have to worry about profit.  All of its expenses are paid for in taxes by the very people who &quot;buy&quot; from them.  By socializing healthcare, the government is essentially making our medicine system into one of the largest, most dangerous monopolies in history.  Remember what happened to England when it socialized its healthcare?  All its best doctors packed up and moved to America, where they could function freely under the free market.

Our free market is being shackled by the current administration.  The greatest evil a government can do is to put its hand into businesses.  The social project failed.  Miserably.  And yet it is being recreated here in our own great nation.

You advised the previous posters to carefully consider the current healthcare system, and I urge you to do the same.  Check your premises.

I strongly urge any who wish to expand their educational horizons to read any of the works by Ayn Rand.  It is amazing how well she predicted just the kinds of things that are happening now...which is astounding, given the fact that she died five years before I was even born.  

If you have ears to hear...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lane,</p>
<p>One particular phrase in your comment sticks out to me; namely, the following.</p>
<p>&#8220;The decisions you mention, that of bureaucrats deciding who lives or dies, seems to lead one to believe that an insurance company or a self employed physician (both working for profit) do not make those decisions.&#8221;</p>
<p>I find it interesting that you mention as an aside that insurance companies and self-employed physicians work for profit.  Please correct me if I have interpreted this phrase wrongly, but it seems to me that your implication is that working for profit is somehow a bad thing.</p>
<p>I know it is a common conception that it is evil, selfish, and destructive to work for profit.  The rich are maligned for their accomplishments, and the name of Capitalism itself is associated somehow with an aura of evil.  However, it is the ambitious individuals that came to this country in order to pursue their own happiness and their own profit that made us so great.  The people on whose backs this country was built were not working for their neighbor, they were not building their businesses so that they could hand off their hard-earned money to undeserving third parties; they did it for themselves.</p>
<p>When I go see my physician, I know that I am getting the best care possible, simply because I know that she is working for her own profit.  A wise businessman knows that the best way to make a profit and stay competative is to provide the best services possible at the lowest prices affordable.  My doctor has never failed to give me excellent service, and that&#8217;s what keeps me going back to her&#8230;and she knows it.</p>
<p>The government, however, is not a business, nor should it try to function as one.  Their purpose is (or should be) to protect the rights of businesses and individuals, not to dictate them.  It is, in the words of our founding fathers, &#8220;a necessary evil.&#8221;  The government has absolutely no initiative to provide the best services possible, because if it is the only entity you can go to for your product, there is no need for competetive quality.  It has no need to provide its services at the lowest price possible because it doesn&#8217;t have to worry about profit.  All of its expenses are paid for in taxes by the very people who &#8220;buy&#8221; from them.  By socializing healthcare, the government is essentially making our medicine system into one of the largest, most dangerous monopolies in history.  Remember what happened to England when it socialized its healthcare?  All its best doctors packed up and moved to America, where they could function freely under the free market.</p>
<p>Our free market is being shackled by the current administration.  The greatest evil a government can do is to put its hand into businesses.  The social project failed.  Miserably.  And yet it is being recreated here in our own great nation.</p>
<p>You advised the previous posters to carefully consider the current healthcare system, and I urge you to do the same.  Check your premises.</p>
<p>I strongly urge any who wish to expand their educational horizons to read any of the works by Ayn Rand.  It is amazing how well she predicted just the kinds of things that are happening now&#8230;which is astounding, given the fact that she died five years before I was even born.  </p>
<p>If you have ears to hear&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Lane C. Georgeton</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lane C. Georgeton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Feb 2009 17:55:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you very much for providing more information regarding the Health Care provisions in the Economic Stimulus Package.  I, however, must disagree with your bleak assessment of having the government support and help those who have or lost or never had or are losing health care.  The decisions you mention, that of bureaucrats deciding who lives or dies, seems to lead one to believe that an insurance company or a self employed physician (both working for profit) do not make those decisions.   The information for each patient will always be managed by clinics and physicians.  That is the case in all modern health care systems.  In fact, the insurance companies are notorious for doing exactly what you claim the government will do.  The government is most likely going to come up with a flow-chart, that all health care providers do, that sets an efficient pay structure for procedures.  If you want the government to act more like a business, than it would seem you would support this portion of the bill.  As it allows many people who are not served by the current employer based insurance scheme to gain access to much needed health care for themselves and their families and have it run efficiently.  

I hope you take a closer look at the details of the bill and take a moment to think about what our current health care system really looks like.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you very much for providing more information regarding the Health Care provisions in the Economic Stimulus Package.  I, however, must disagree with your bleak assessment of having the government support and help those who have or lost or never had or are losing health care.  The decisions you mention, that of bureaucrats deciding who lives or dies, seems to lead one to believe that an insurance company or a self employed physician (both working for profit) do not make those decisions.   The information for each patient will always be managed by clinics and physicians.  That is the case in all modern health care systems.  In fact, the insurance companies are notorious for doing exactly what you claim the government will do.  The government is most likely going to come up with a flow-chart, that all health care providers do, that sets an efficient pay structure for procedures.  If you want the government to act more like a business, than it would seem you would support this portion of the bill.  As it allows many people who are not served by the current employer based insurance scheme to gain access to much needed health care for themselves and their families and have it run efficiently.  </p>
<p>I hope you take a closer look at the details of the bill and take a moment to think about what our current health care system really looks like.</p>
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		<title>By: Bunny S. Galladora</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bunny S. Galladora</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Feb 2009 17:48:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Party Time - Tea Party that is....

NOW IS THE TIME TO TAKE ACTION!
We as a country cannot afford the “stimulus bill.&quot; We need to stand up against what will cause our country’s downfall. 

Do you recall the Boston Tea Party? Over the years, the Boston Tea Party has become a symbol of rebellion against the establishment. It is now time to “rebel” against the largest redistribution of wealth in our country’s history.

It is time to send a tea bag or an “e-tea” message to Washington, D.C. Let them know that we will NOT stand for this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Party Time &#8211; Tea Party that is&#8230;.</p>
<p>NOW IS THE TIME TO TAKE ACTION!<br />
We as a country cannot afford the “stimulus bill.&#8221; We need to stand up against what will cause our country’s downfall. </p>
<p>Do you recall the Boston Tea Party? Over the years, the Boston Tea Party has become a symbol of rebellion against the establishment. It is now time to “rebel” against the largest redistribution of wealth in our country’s history.</p>
<p>It is time to send a tea bag or an “e-tea” message to Washington, D.C. Let them know that we will NOT stand for this.</p>
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		<title>By: ALERT: Stealth Health Care Socialization In The Stimulus Bill&#8211;UPDATED &#171; Blog Entry &#171; Dr. Melissa Clouthier</title>
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		<dc:creator>ALERT: Stealth Health Care Socialization In The Stimulus Bill&#8211;UPDATED &#171; Blog Entry &#171; Dr. Melissa Clouthier</dc:creator>
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		<description>[...] keep hitting this topic (more here and here) because this legislation will affect you and your family. The end results of this legislation will [...]</description>
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