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		<title>By: Robert A. Hall</title>
		<link>http://www.melissaclouthier.com/2008/12/17/tamm-the-traitor/comment-page-1/#comment-12189</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert A. Hall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Dec 2008 19:43:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Agree 100%. Concerned about civil liberties? Let the terrorists set off an A-bomb in Washington, DC, and in addition to our returning to an 1800s economy, complete with real horse power, there will be a 99% consensus among Americans to eliminate any right that conflicts with security.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Agree 100%. Concerned about civil liberties? Let the terrorists set off an A-bomb in Washington, DC, and in addition to our returning to an 1800s economy, complete with real horse power, there will be a 99% consensus among Americans to eliminate any right that conflicts with security.</p>
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		<title>By: Naqamel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Naqamel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Dec 2008 17:31:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Karthik:

They were only wiretapping calls coming from or going to known terrorist regions.

In other words, International calls.

As far as some of your other points: &lt;i&gt;Which means that just because I am Indian, they record me and they dont record u because u are American. But it might be more likely that u could be more of a threat than me.&lt;/i&gt;

Highly unlikely: Dr. M is also a white, Christian woman and since white, Christian women don&#039;t fit into the terrorist demographic there&#039;d be nothing to gain by wiretapping. Please don&#039;t misunderstand, I&#039;m NOT saying you are a threat at all, just pointing out that all  of the international terrorist attacks lately have not had a white Christian woman among the perpetrators...

However, for a person here from the Middle East, calling back to the Middle East to hook up with his terrorist homeboys - yeah, we need to keep an eye on that.

&lt;i&gt;It cannot be like the “Random Selection” they do at the airports.&lt;/i&gt;

It&#039;s not, and Random Selection is stupid. My nearly 80 year old Grandmother got harassed at the airport because she set off the metal detector, even after she told the guy she&#039;s had a total knee replacement surgery and she&#039;ll never get through the metal detector because she has a bunch of metal gears where her knee used to be.

Tell me who an 80 year old woman who can&#039;t walk without a cane is a threat to.

&lt;i&gt;It kinda invades your privacy.&lt;/i&gt;

No, it absolutely does invade your privacy, but only if you&#039;re making or receiving international calls to known terrorist regions.

&lt;i&gt;I cant understand are u so averse to them recording the number of guns you own??&lt;/i&gt;

They already do, as we have to register guns here.

&lt;i&gt;I think this country stands for freedom of thought and by listening in on its citizens the government directly steps on this right.&lt;/i&gt;

Now this I just don&#039;t follow: How am I listening to what you say infringing on your right to say it? That&#039;s a logical leap you just can&#039;t make.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Karthik:</p>
<p>They were only wiretapping calls coming from or going to known terrorist regions.</p>
<p>In other words, International calls.</p>
<p>As far as some of your other points: <i>Which means that just because I am Indian, they record me and they dont record u because u are American. But it might be more likely that u could be more of a threat than me.</i></p>
<p>Highly unlikely: Dr. M is also a white, Christian woman and since white, Christian women don&#8217;t fit into the terrorist demographic there&#8217;d be nothing to gain by wiretapping. Please don&#8217;t misunderstand, I&#8217;m NOT saying you are a threat at all, just pointing out that all  of the international terrorist attacks lately have not had a white Christian woman among the perpetrators&#8230;</p>
<p>However, for a person here from the Middle East, calling back to the Middle East to hook up with his terrorist homeboys &#8211; yeah, we need to keep an eye on that.</p>
<p><i>It cannot be like the “Random Selection” they do at the airports.</i></p>
<p>It&#8217;s not, and Random Selection is stupid. My nearly 80 year old Grandmother got harassed at the airport because she set off the metal detector, even after she told the guy she&#8217;s had a total knee replacement surgery and she&#8217;ll never get through the metal detector because she has a bunch of metal gears where her knee used to be.</p>
<p>Tell me who an 80 year old woman who can&#8217;t walk without a cane is a threat to.</p>
<p><i>It kinda invades your privacy.</i></p>
<p>No, it absolutely does invade your privacy, but only if you&#8217;re making or receiving international calls to known terrorist regions.</p>
<p><i>I cant understand are u so averse to them recording the number of guns you own??</i></p>
<p>They already do, as we have to register guns here.</p>
<p><i>I think this country stands for freedom of thought and by listening in on its citizens the government directly steps on this right.</i></p>
<p>Now this I just don&#8217;t follow: How am I listening to what you say infringing on your right to say it? That&#8217;s a logical leap you just can&#8217;t make.</p>
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		<title>By: Karthik Balasubramanian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Karthik Balasubramanian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Dec 2008 16:24:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Melissa, this is one article in which I agree with u to a certain extent, but let me tell u why the other side or atleast I disagree. I understand that what the NSA does is useful to learn about possible harmful talk, but it is kinda like using a short cut because u are too lazy u to use the longer path - but the short cut impinges on the freedom of the citizens. I have 2 points to make

1. Profiling people that are recorded. Which means that just because I am Indian, they record me and they dont record u because u are American. But it might be more likely that u could be more of a threat than me. If the Government wants to record conversations, It should come out in the open and let the people know the criteria it uses to record conversations. It cannot be like the &quot;Random Selection&quot; they do at the airports.

2. It kinda invades your privacy. When I am on the internet, I dont want people to see what I am doing. By recording my calls, the government tries to pry into my personal life which I dont want. If u are willing to let them record ur phone conversations, I cant understand are u so averse to them recording the number of guns you own??

Let the government listen to everything we do and before u know it, it could lead to a a government purging unfriendly or unappreciative people which will take us back to the cold war age. I think this country stands for freedom of thought and by listening in on its citizens the government directly steps on this right.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Melissa, this is one article in which I agree with u to a certain extent, but let me tell u why the other side or atleast I disagree. I understand that what the NSA does is useful to learn about possible harmful talk, but it is kinda like using a short cut because u are too lazy u to use the longer path &#8211; but the short cut impinges on the freedom of the citizens. I have 2 points to make</p>
<p>1. Profiling people that are recorded. Which means that just because I am Indian, they record me and they dont record u because u are American. But it might be more likely that u could be more of a threat than me. If the Government wants to record conversations, It should come out in the open and let the people know the criteria it uses to record conversations. It cannot be like the &#8220;Random Selection&#8221; they do at the airports.</p>
<p>2. It kinda invades your privacy. When I am on the internet, I dont want people to see what I am doing. By recording my calls, the government tries to pry into my personal life which I dont want. If u are willing to let them record ur phone conversations, I cant understand are u so averse to them recording the number of guns you own??</p>
<p>Let the government listen to everything we do and before u know it, it could lead to a a government purging unfriendly or unappreciative people which will take us back to the cold war age. I think this country stands for freedom of thought and by listening in on its citizens the government directly steps on this right.</p>
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