Comments on: Healthcare For All: Five Reasons Government Controlled Medicine Would Be Bad http://www.melissaclouthier.com/2008/08/27/healthcare-for-all-five-reasons-government-controlled-medicine-would-be-a/ Information Pollination Sat, 20 Mar 2010 05:00:41 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.1 hourly 1 By: MeZZiN http://www.melissaclouthier.com/2008/08/27/healthcare-for-all-five-reasons-government-controlled-medicine-would-be-a/comment-page-1/#comment-13105 MeZZiN Thu, 05 Feb 2009 07:25:27 +0000 http://www.melissaclouthier.com/?p=9939#comment-13105 I just don't understand the resistance of the US people against this. In the Netherlands it is mandatory to have insurance and it is government controlled but the healtcare is good and everybody that need healtcare is helped. I pay around 89 euros per month for healtcare. That is not a lot. And you get good healtcare for that. It is not perfect but a lot better then what you have now in the US. I just don’t understand the resistance of the US people against this. In the Netherlands it is mandatory to have insurance and it is government controlled but the healtcare is good and everybody that need healtcare is helped. I pay around 89 euros per month for healtcare. That is not a lot. And you get good healtcare for that. It is not perfect but a lot better then what you have now in the US.

]]> By: Somone thats Informed! http://www.melissaclouthier.com/2008/08/27/healthcare-for-all-five-reasons-government-controlled-medicine-would-be-a/comment-page-1/#comment-11500 Somone thats Informed! Mon, 01 Dec 2008 02:44:37 +0000 http://www.melissaclouthier.com/?p=9939#comment-11500 HHHHHMMMMMMMMM let me get this right………..Obama is not a US citizen? Almost seems laughable but to some, they do find some truth to ignorance. As for US healthcare reform……………….it cant come any quicker. Its understood that some would believe that a universal healthcare is a bad idea and they have every right to have their OPINION but in actuality America is said/thought to be the richest and most politically and economically powerful national in the world yet many of its citizens are not covered- please correct me if I am mistaken but its more than 16 million Americans do not have health insurance, can someone please answer me why? Hhhhhhhmmmmmmmm I would have to say because Americans are individualistic and we tend to only think about ourselves and not the greater good because a countries standard of living is embedded in its healthcare system. If this is posted then great but if not that’s fine because I completely understand why my thoughts might not align with yours or they might be considered OUTRAGEOUS and unpatriotic or whatever other code words that might be used to unit all mavericks. Have a Nice Day HHHHHMMMMMMMMM let me get this right………..Obama is not a US citizen? Almost seems laughable but to some, they do find some truth to ignorance.

As for US healthcare reform……………….it cant come any quicker. Its understood that some would believe that a universal healthcare is a bad idea and they have every right to have their OPINION but in actuality America is said/thought to be the richest and most politically and economically powerful national in the world yet many of its citizens are not covered- please correct me if I am mistaken but its more than 16 million Americans do not have health insurance, can someone please answer me why? Hhhhhhhmmmmmmmm I would have to say because Americans are individualistic
and we tend to only think about ourselves and not the greater good because a countries standard of living is embedded in its healthcare system.

If this is posted then great but if not that’s fine because I completely understand why my thoughts might not align with yours or they might be considered OUTRAGEOUS and unpatriotic or whatever other code words that might be used to unit all mavericks.

Have a Nice Day

]]> By: Micheal http://www.melissaclouthier.com/2008/08/27/healthcare-for-all-five-reasons-government-controlled-medicine-would-be-a/comment-page-1/#comment-8463 Micheal Fri, 29 Aug 2008 00:02:17 +0000 http://www.melissaclouthier.com/?p=9939#comment-8463 On the button. Every single time one of the liberals I work with bring up this topic these are the points I make. Sadly, talking, okay arguing with a liberal is like doing the same with a bring walk and with the same results. None. On the button. Every single time one of the liberals I work with bring up this topic these are the points I make. Sadly, talking, okay arguing with a liberal is like doing the same with a bring walk and with the same results. None.

]]> By: Jay http://www.melissaclouthier.com/2008/08/27/healthcare-for-all-five-reasons-government-controlled-medicine-would-be-a/comment-page-1/#comment-8460 Jay Thu, 28 Aug 2008 22:24:09 +0000 http://www.melissaclouthier.com/?p=9939#comment-8460 I'm always amused when I hear people say that the government should take over health care to eliminate all the burocracy and paperwork created by the insurance companies. A government run health care system would combine the compassion of the IRS, the convenience of the TSA (airport security), and the efficiency of the Motor Vehicle Bureau. I’m always amused when I hear people say that the government should take over health care to eliminate all the burocracy and paperwork created by the insurance companies.

A government run health care system would combine the compassion of the IRS, the convenience of the TSA (airport security), and the efficiency of the Motor Vehicle Bureau.

]]> By: Rumple Stiltskin http://www.melissaclouthier.com/2008/08/27/healthcare-for-all-five-reasons-government-controlled-medicine-would-be-a/comment-page-1/#comment-8449 Rumple Stiltskin Thu, 28 Aug 2008 17:29:48 +0000 http://www.melissaclouthier.com/?p=9939#comment-8449 I thought a person holding the office of President of the United States HAD to be a natural-born American citizen. Why are we even considering this imposter for our President ?? Here's a great question bound to make Obama squirm: Mr. Obama, would you kindly produce a certified copy of your Hawaiian birth certificate? (He can't and won't, because it doesn't exist). OBAMA isn’t even a natural-born American citizen. !!! End this charade NOW !!!!! I thought a person holding the office of President of the United States HAD to be a natural-born American citizen. Why are we even considering this imposter for our President ??
Here’s a great question bound to make Obama squirm: Mr. Obama, would you kindly produce a certified copy of your Hawaiian birth certificate? (He can’t and won’t, because it doesn’t exist).

OBAMA isn’t even a natural-born American citizen. !!!
End this charade NOW !!!!!

]]> By: Joe http://www.melissaclouthier.com/2008/08/27/healthcare-for-all-five-reasons-government-controlled-medicine-would-be-a/comment-page-1/#comment-8448 Joe Thu, 28 Aug 2008 17:13:19 +0000 http://www.melissaclouthier.com/?p=9939#comment-8448 A fatal flaw of most socialized medicine plans is that they are wedded to the notion of equality of care, to be legally enforced. They can't tolerate the notion of tiered care, a mix of public and private care and so forth. Personally, I think basic health care, with a co-pay, should be available to everyone. This would cover out-patient basics; stitches, colds, immunizations, broken bones. All done by interns and nurses and second rate doctors. Frankly, the Wal-Mart clinic model is the way to go, only slightly expanded. (And can we shake up the government/industry monopoly on prescription drugs--the whole thing is a racket. It pisses me off that so many medicines that should be OTC not only need a prescription, but have to pay a damn $20 copay to get my doctor to give me a prescription.) A fatal flaw of most socialized medicine plans is that they are wedded to the notion of equality of care, to be legally enforced. They can’t tolerate the notion of tiered care, a mix of public and private care and so forth.

Personally, I think basic health care, with a co-pay, should be available to everyone. This would cover out-patient basics; stitches, colds, immunizations, broken bones. All done by interns and nurses and second rate doctors.

Frankly, the Wal-Mart clinic model is the way to go, only slightly expanded. (And can we shake up the government/industry monopoly on prescription drugs–the whole thing is a racket. It pisses me off that so many medicines that should be OTC not only need a prescription, but have to pay a damn $20 copay to get my doctor to give me a prescription.)

]]> By: Ken Gross http://www.melissaclouthier.com/2008/08/27/healthcare-for-all-five-reasons-government-controlled-medicine-would-be-a/comment-page-1/#comment-8447 Ken Gross Thu, 28 Aug 2008 16:30:44 +0000 http://www.melissaclouthier.com/?p=9939#comment-8447 I come from the UK, and my father passed away over there earlier than he needed to, partially due to healthcare rationing. There is only so much money to go around, and it is not spent effectively or efficiently, as my family directly experienced. On of the other problems with rationing is this, even when you do have the money, the government might not allow you to buy it, bizarre but true. I come from the UK, and my father passed away over there earlier than he needed to, partially due to healthcare rationing.

There is only so much money to go around, and it is not spent effectively or efficiently, as my family directly experienced. On of the other problems with rationing is this, even when you do have the money, the government might not allow you to buy it, bizarre but true.

]]> By: Frank Shipley http://www.melissaclouthier.com/2008/08/27/healthcare-for-all-five-reasons-government-controlled-medicine-would-be-a/comment-page-1/#comment-8446 Frank Shipley Thu, 28 Aug 2008 15:54:57 +0000 http://www.melissaclouthier.com/?p=9939#comment-8446 There already exist several government-run health care systems: Indian Health care for beneficiaries who are Eskimo, Indian, or Aleut; Military health care, for active duty and retired military personnel; Veterans Administration for disabled vets and other vets who choose VA care; and of course Medicare. All these are supposed to be either free to beneficiaries, or low cost. But there are a lot of complaints about rules, and budget cuts limiting patient care, waiting for care, and clerical personnel making decisions about who gets what care, and when, and for (in some of hese systems) how much money it will cost. Personnel systems are the same as all government agencies, and often the best docs are not hired or contracted for services, due to federal pay scales being significantly below what private enterpise physicians can collect in private practice. Some parts of the country, technician and other staff, including nurses, have federal pay above the local pay in private enterprise, but mostly the fed tech/RN pay is below general competition pay at local for-profit or non-profit hospitals. I figure most employees in these systems are either serving humanity,like Kennedy said to "ask not what govt can do for you, but what you can do for it" or in the worst case, not the best possible candidates for the jobs. Thanks There already exist several government-run health care systems: Indian Health care for beneficiaries who are Eskimo, Indian, or Aleut; Military health care, for active duty and retired military personnel; Veterans Administration for disabled vets and other vets who choose VA care; and of course Medicare. All these are supposed to be either free to beneficiaries, or low cost. But there are a lot of complaints about rules, and budget cuts limiting patient care, waiting for care, and clerical personnel making decisions about who gets what care, and when, and for (in some of hese systems) how much money it will cost. Personnel systems are the same as all government agencies, and often the best docs are not hired or contracted for services, due to federal pay scales being significantly below what private enterpise physicians can collect in private practice. Some parts of the country, technician and other staff, including nurses, have federal pay above the local pay in private enterprise, but mostly the fed tech/RN pay is below general competition pay at local for-profit or non-profit hospitals. I figure most employees in these systems are either serving humanity,like Kennedy said to “ask not what govt can do for you, but what you can do for it” or in the worst case, not the best possible candidates for the jobs.

Thanks

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