“I had sex with my brother but I don’t feel guilty”
July 15, 2008 / 10:17 pm • By Dr. Melissa ClouthierIt reads like some good erotica, but this story in the Times Online extols the virtues of a consensual incestuous relationship between a brother and sister. Okay, so some lady anonymously reveals her story, without guilt.
The comments contain the interesting social commentary, though. After reading them, I’m figuring, Britain isn’t luging down the shitter, it’s already there. Here are just a couple:
My moral compass isn’t based on antiquated notions of morality. It’s based on harm. If someone is unintentionally harmed or abused by your actions, it’s probably wrong. If it’s consensual, have at it. There’s no reason to base moral judgments on anything else. That’s just absurd.
Brandon, Ballwin,A beautiful, honest and from the heart article. I could not begin to imagine the emotion you felt when writing it.
James, Bournemouth, EnglandIt was really nice to read indeed. I think the lady is very lucky to have such a fantastic relationship with her brother.
Congratulations!
Jordi, London,Of all the comments, it is refreshing to note that there were only a couple of judgemental, fearful ones. It was a wonderfully honest account of what was real for two people! It happened! Humanity is amazing and evolving-as Fred from Bristol said, years ago it would have been about homosexuality!
Ellegee, Purbeck, UK
Her brother moved on, but would choose her. She is in a relationship, but still thinks of him. Their family would be destroyed should their secret be revealed. Their current relationships would probably be deeply troubled, if not undone. Should a child have come from the relationship, genetic problems, etc. would have resulted (but they were “careful about birth control”). Um, yeah, but how many kids are walking around today who were born in spite of diligent birth control? If one is heart-broken, he or she has the anguish of seeing the person at every family get together. There is no escape. An incestuous relationship, even a consensual one, is fraught.
And these ramifications were lost on the readers of the article. What in the hell? As one anthropologist commented, “There are few universal social taboos, incest is one of them. Millions of years of evolution can’t be wrong.”
Progressives snort about the whole notion of a slippery slope, but if Western Civilization isn’t skiing down one right now, I don’t know what qualifies. The ultimate goal of post-modern thought is to make all behavior equal. There is no right and wrong. There are just experiences. Well, experiences have consequences. People are affected. Families are affected. Society is affected for society is made up of people.
And right now, society is getting sicker because the people who make up society are getting sicker.
7 Responses to ““I had sex with my brother but I don’t feel guilty””
July 16 2008 / 11:59 am
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It’s really no problem if she wants to have sex with her brother, and if her fellow dhimmis in England cheer her on. There may be one tiny, itsy,bitsy drawback. G*d may actually exist. If He exists, then she’ll wind up in front of Him, explaining why she led and encouraged others to sin, and sinned herself. In front of the most powerful Being in the Universe. I understand He is less than happy with people who slap His Son’s Work in the face. Even less so with the arrogant. Oh, and no lawyers,bond,appeals,or new trials. Or plea bargains. Just the facts.
July 16 2008 / 12:06 pm
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“I’m figuring, Britain isn’t luging down the shitter, it’s already there.”
As a Brit, sometimes I feel the exact same way, but those comments are certainly NOT the views of the majority over here. They maybe the views of city-liberals/students/communists sipping their ultra-organic fair trade mochafrappacrappacinos in Costalot Coffee while reading the Guardian (or in this case, the Times), sniffing their own farts and discussing their new Honda Prius Hybrid cars, but most people I know in this country are a lot more sensible than those cretins!
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July 16 2008 / 2:57 pm
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“And right now, society is getting sicker because the people who make up society are getting sicker.”
Read a bit about the conditions for your average working class family in the 19th century and think again about the notion that society is getting sicker. How about we then discuss lynchings, unprosecuted rapes, the inability for women to own property, women being beaten senseless by husbands and sons and the authorities doing nothing.
We live in a fabulous, peaceful, healthy period unique in human history. It has problems, but ultimately I wouldn’t trade it for the fantasy of a less sicker time. (Okay, I’d gladly go back in time to live in Southern California or Hawaii in 1965.)
July 16 2008 / 3:17 pm
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And to think I was starting to feel guilty about my goat!
July 16 2008 / 8:32 pm
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The fact that her brother still wants her has to do with the power of the sexual experience. If love is all that matters then she would be able to marry her brother without in consequences. Of course I disagree with this completely, the lack of guilt amazes me. It is called a seared conscience. How do you determine the emotional harm done through having sex with your brother. Is physical harm all that matters. Guilt is good when it shows that what you are doing is wrong. Why not sex with father and daughter, mother and son.
July 17 2008 / 1:29 am
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Since when did “consensual” become a standard? Who are you to tell me what my limits are?
(Reminds me of that bumper sticker that commands us to “Question Authority.” What gives the author the authority to tell me to question authority? I question his authority to tell me to question authority!)
If there is no objective right and wrong and I want to do something, and I’m stronger, why can’t I do it to you, whether you consent or not?
This business of “anything goes if you agree to it” is only one notch from “anything goes” whether you agree or not.
July 20 2008 / 2:24 pm
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The reason that a woman is used to attack this taboo is because our society has been conditioned to be more sensitive to women. This woman is being used. Those who show compassion are merely using her or are aligning to the false virtue of understanding and compassion.
If this story was led by a male the listening would be different. Sexism in this case is driven by female false compassion.